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May 04, 2006

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jim

hey, don't knock screw tops...better those than the fake plastic corks. it's the worst of both worlds- hard to open and ecologically shitty.

Holland Oats

First - As a hugely successful black entrepreneur, Puffy's exploitation of Panther Party imagery (for any Times Square tourists who care enough to notice) also acknowledges a debt to those that struggled before him.

Second - That poster's been up for like two years, yo.

octavia

Holland

How is Puffy-Face acknowledging a debt to those who struggled before him for equal rights? By collecting cash dollar on their pain and suffering? And how exactly is he suffering? By blaming the possession of a gun on his driver? That’s pretty stand-up.

The empty images he affects (gangster, activist, capitalist pig) is not diverting attention away from the image of African Americans that the USA knows and loves. No matter how many “bling bling” reality TV shows Cotton-Puff stars in, the cops will still be called when a black man walks through a white neighborhood.

If he’s so concerned about equal rights maybe he could do something to help young African-Americans. There are plenty of issues to choose from...perhaps education would interest him. I guess he is too busy doing Diet Pepsi commercials.

Sorry, that some of us don’t go into Times Square enough for your liking. I guess we buy our designer Malcolm X T-shirts on Canal Street.

Yo-yo.

bartelby

Hi,
I just wanted to add that in addition to those athletes fists being raised with their people in the united states it was also meant as a gesture of solidarity with the Mexican students who were at that moment staging an urban rebellion in Mexico City.
bartelby

Laurie

That same goddamn image looms over Downtown Miami. Across from the motherfucking Freedom Tower. It's a disgrace.

Holland Oats

> How is Puffy-Face acknowledging a debt to those who struggled before him for equal rights?

By being rich. And remember, that poster is an ad for his Sean John clothing line, not a socio-political statement, k? Think of it as 'sampling' and relax.

octavia

Holland

By being rich? That’s the best you can do? 40% percent of Newark’s population doesn’t have a high school degree and we are supposed to be glad because Puffy-Face is rich?

Yes, Holland, it is just a clothing ad. That is why this posing is so offensive. Cotton Puff puts the chase for the almighty dollar in front of everything and anything. That’s some tribute to the sweat and blood of those African Americans that made his fortunes possible.

Sampling? Sampling what? The bravery of two men, who tried to show how deep racism ran (runs) in American society, risking everything they had worked for in their lives. Or maybe he’s sampling the death of 300+ Mexican students - killed by their own country’s army - which Smith and Carlos identified as part of the global struggle they were involved in (thanks Bartelby). What has Puffy sacrificed?

Speaking of our southern neighbors, I wonder where Sean Jean is made and how much those workers are paid? Thanks for keeping it real Pufster!

Relax?

You relax.

Holland Oats

He's sampling/appropriating/exploiting an icon of black struggle. Like it or not, Diddy's achievements represent at least part of 60s liberation aims... getting a piece o' the pie.

octavia

Holland

Try harder.

Richard

For the record:

The silver medalist on the podium was Australian Peter Norman, who was wearing a badge of the Olympic Project for Human Rights (as were Smith and Carlos), an organization founded in 1967 (Carlos was a founding member) to organize a boycott of the Olympics in protest of the treatment of African Americans.

Both Smith and Carlos were wearing black socks and no shoes on the podium, to represent black poverty in America.

They have both since been elected into the National Track & Field Hall of Fame, as much for their athletic accomplishments as for anything else.

docmarvy

I made the Mexican Chocolate Cake last night for my big Cinco de Mayo get together tonight. If you want to modify it I recommend doubling the recipe, making a two layer version and spreading a thin layer of strawberry preserves between the layers then drizzling with the glaze. It smells great and I can't wait to serve it up tonight with some chocolate/chipotle gelato from Whole Foods.

bartleby

It's funny how Xenakis doesn't catch nearly as much crap for taking money from the Shah for composing his music as any given hip hop artist in any given ad on any given day.

octavia

Does Xenakis drape himself in Greek resistance imagery? And make money off of it?

bartelby

"Does Xenakis drape himself in Greek resistance imagery? And make money off of it?"

No, but then he didn't have to, did he?

andy

i'm curious...i've never seen anything on this. what was Xenakis' take on the Greek dictatorship? and what was their take on him?

Bartleby

Hi,
I suspect he was not too happy about it Greek Junta despite the fact they were kind enough to supply shrapnel for the left side of his face. I've asked around about this to try and ascertain a few things about Xenakis. Firstly did any left organizations in Iran, France, Greece or anywhere else have anything to say about his working for the Shah? Then secondly what was his relationship with the lefty intelligentsia in post-war france, e.g. what political positions did he take publicly. Nobody seemed to know much about him besides what I told them.
Since most books about him are kind of pricey and books by him are utterly incomprehensible I haven't found out much more.

While I was kind of crestfallen about the Pahlavi thing I still appreciate the guy's sense of aesthetics. He's got way better politics then Penderecki nonetheless.

WmMBerger

Everything P. Diddy says/does/sells is complete rubbish. That I am even forced to consider him as anything more than dogshit is an insult to my intelligence. He has no talent whatsoever, but is apparently a very astute businessman who latched onto someone with real talent (Notorious B.I.G.) who drew him into the limelight, and then died, paving the way for the Puffy empire.

And another thing, fuck all you blog troll/contrarians; you're the worst kind of scum. At least suicide bombers believe in something. All you believe in is being a pain in somebody's ass; getting decent people like Octavia (and me) all riled up over your purposefully recalcitrant comments.

See what happens when I drink coffee...

bartelby

I think I see now why FMU didn't stay in East Orange

WmMBerger

Not exactly sure what you're trying to imply there, Bartelby, but if you're suggesting that my (or anyone else's) comments here are at all racist in nature, or represent the overall opinion of WFMU as being racist, I'm horrified, and that could not any be further from the truth. I see P. Diddy as a soulless entrepreneur; his race was irrelevant to my comment. It's unfortunate that a greedy clown (lest we forget "All About The Benjamins") like Diddy is seen as representing Black people at all, when great thinkers like Stanley Crouch are available.

Holland Oats

are you mad at me?

bartleby

A Black man raises his fist in a Black Power salute in public, suffers no repercussions and a white man gets angry about it after the fact. Leadership in the Black community is not yours to select.

WmMBerger

"Suffers no repercussions"??? Gimme a break - He's filthy stinking rich, and appropriating the imagery of the salute to make a sale, which is the point that started this whole "debate," I believe. P. Diddly-Squat doesn't need you to defend him, yet you persist, like some kind of rabid Berkeley student.

I'm obviously not going to convince you that my criticism of Mr. Diddy is not racially-motivated, but I will say this: leadership in the White community is not mine to select, either. Globally, George W. Bush represents the white man rather than Noam Chomsky, and I'm even more unhappy about that.

andy

hey

how did the mexican cake turn out?

andy

hey

how did the mexican cake turn out?

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