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December 07, 2006

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bartelby

So then this was after the Beatles invented Musique Concrete but before they ended the Vietnam war, no?

Brakhage

There was indeed about three more hours to this interview, in which he slags just about everyone – but it's fascinating because he has some objectivity on the Beatles phenomenon and has the freedom to call it as he sees it. I'm not sure what the legality is of me handing off copies to you, since the BBC originally provided the files (my copies are marked as BBC podcasts), but it's worth tracking down the whole thing if you can.

Jeffersonic

Say bartelby, would you explain your comment with further depth?

bartelby

I've heard claims from Beatles fans that Revolution 9 was the first music of its kind. Further I think peopple who credit the Beatles or rock music of the era in general with being the immpetus behind the end of the Vietnam war have their analysis backard. The Civil Rights Movement and anti-colonial struggles of the time were what motivated rock musicians and their audience to more eclectic and egalitarian approaches to society.

Jeffersonic

Thanks, bartleby!

Jeffersonic

Hi bartleby,
It seems to me, large and small revolutions were occuring throughout society in this period as never before, and music played a part as a revolutionary force in this time. At the very least, an amazingly influential, unifying and exciting uncharted new art form. Or non-art form. Or whatever. I think that along with the facets you mentioned, a large homogenous group coming of age, coupled with global cultural communications occurring at an unprecedented rate played a significant role in people waking up to the world's possibilities in the 60's.

bartelby

I think what you are saying is true about certain parts of the population in places like the US and UK. But I think fof the most part art is a mirror and not a hammer.

Jeffersonic

I think the Beatles were an undeniable revolutionary force. Like them or not, consider how many of the smallest shards of "rock and roll" that exist today still can't escape significant aspects of the Beatles original blueprint. I think this occurred somewhat beyond their individual and collective talents, and the times and places in which they developed factor heavily in the reach of their influence, but these things couldn't have occurred without the skills they did possess. I think art is always a mirror, but it can also be a hammer. (you've heard Kenny G's show, right?) Think of the forces you can release just by placing a crucifix into a jar of piss or setting two X- shaped gasoline soaked timbers on fire, in the middle of the road, at night.(ala Chris Burden) Whether it's effective or not, art is always a communication, and it's been known to ignite incendiary forces.(Right now, as I
write this, I would love to be putting Halloween decorations in my windows, but
I won't because considering the extent to which religion possesses people in my
community, I estimate that it could cause me to lose my apartment.
I've always been amazed by the visceral power of the electric guitar as an attractive cultural force. Over the years, due to its constant exposure, and its use
as a thoroughly disseminated product, its power has dimmed a bit, but it is still present. I think the electric guitar was a very powerful tool of artists in the sixties
which had significant cultural effects worldwide even if only because of the sonic
frontiers it opened up worldwide.

bob dylan

I'm pretty sure the whole interview used to be somewhere on this website: http://www.clickcaster.com/podcast/view/23786

His comment on Bob Dylan's "New Morning" period are hilarious to me. If I recall correctly, he was making fun of the seemingly "family man" Dylan. He knocked, "Bob thinks he's having a New Morning with his family and the bit"...didn't John end up having a "new morning" himself a few years later?

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