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January 06, 2007

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jhn

The maker of the game might intend it to be an artistic statement. Or a game can be made artfully.

A game can be art, but it cannot be art to play a game. The experience one has in playing a game is a non-artistic experience. This applies to the artiest game you can think of, from Myst to Rez or Shadow of the Colossus.

There's nothing wrong with that, of course.

Reggie

I have actually played the game, and it IS an artistic statement...the parts where you are killing students isn't really very fun, since it's not challenging in the least, it is actually sort of tedious...

While I don't think it's brilliant, it is a very interesting concept.

cheerios

Censorship from the sponsors sucks, but I must say that It is very bad form of the festival to accept it in the first place.

Anyone can write a game and post it on the internet, but to have it included in a festival means that someone picked it up and on some level liked it. Would they have accepted a nazi gas chamber simulator? How about an abortion clinic sim? Who cares if it is artistic or not. It´s poor taste, slamdance should have known better.

recked

"things sure do seem a lot more overtly and joyously violent in the world these days and I don't know quite what to make of it"

Do they? Depends on where you get your news I s'pose or maybe you mean at the macro scale.. federal govt murders 100,000+ plus civilians killed in iraq for example,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A7967-2004Oct28?language=printer

but FBI's stats show violent crime within U.S. is actually on the decline http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/

And yet the prison industry is now a self-sustaining business where there are significantly more inmates despite fewer crimes!! Just yesterday the Chicago Tribune noticed it... http://tinyurl.com/yyordz

Sorry to get all factual but... columbine? kids? video games? That's just not where violence is happening.


ResidentClinton

Oh, I don't want to get into THAT debate. I think I made it pretty clear that I don't think anything "inspires" kids to acts of violence. But I do like to open the "but is it art" debates. Anyway, I'm right there with you on the glogal violence. It's just our culture as a whole that bums me out sometimes. Certainly humanity has always been a huge mess... I just keep hoping it will get better, and that optomism lets me down everytime.

fantastic

Shouldn't you examine something before reviewing it? It's free and easy to obtain, so what's the excuse not to?
What does it say that the only negative opinions here are those of people who openly admit to having not played the game? What are they based on, then, principle? (Why, precisely, can a medium as potentially broad as the video game be labeled "not art"?)
I second Reggie. Having played the game, it's definitely possible to get something out of it, in part because it has a strong narrative structure -- in fact, it plays much like a movie. If nothing else, it's ambitious -- it attempts to help the player understand horrific things.

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