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Rich

To answer the question, "How many more are there?" was the same question McCarthy wanted answers to with regards to communists in our State Department in the 50's.
Maybe it's time for the "Now Generation" to have Congress form a "House Commitee on AMERICAN Activities" and see who shows up!
Considering where most of the Hollywood crowd stand with American Politics, one shouldn't worry about, "how many more are there?".

Listener Kliph

That question wasn't meant to sound so ominous, it was more in the vein of "who else has a weird child-star-turned-crusader story to share?"

bartelby

yeah stop picking on those people who run the most powerful nation on Earth you big bully.

Pete

If you'd lived under the tyrannical watchful eye of Mr. Wilson all those years, you might be a little more sensitive to the need for a strong defense, hippy.

James

""who else has a weird child-star-turned-crusader story to share?""

Mickey Rooney wrote an open letter of protest when the movie Silent Night, Deadly Night (the infamous Santa-as-ax-murderer movie) was released in 1984. A decade later, he acted in Silent Night, Deadly Night 5. Go figure.

Norton Zenger

Does Kirk Cameron count? Because man, the stories about him could fill a book.

DefChef

Add Willie Ames (Tommy from Eight Is Enough) to the list. He's in the midwest, doing a low-budget Powerman ripoff called Bibleman. He and Jay (and Kirk, and Shirley) would have plenty to talk about!

lee

i saw a manhatten public access show in the early 90s [?] with Jay north as a guest interviewee. it all started nicely enough with the host's glee at his guests presence. then Jay let forth with all the tales of his beatings and starvation tactics on the set of D T M. alleged: his parents gave the director permission to hit Jay when he wasn't perfect. [anyone know of whereabouts in re this clip? ?] . therefore, have some understanding. he's gotta get SOME one. drugs are bad, mmkay? and a shout out to Buffy from family affair, and mike lookinland- often seen at Gr. dead concerts in a nod. he did the loose booty.

lee

also- have a look at the DJ cover of shirl's auto bio. '' child star'' . it shows a photo ,on the front, of her at about 4-5 yrs old looking quite glum. amazon link: http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/9c/cc/d016d250fca077b2b6c47010._AA240_.L.jpg

Grant

In re: Mike Lookinland mention.
I just saw this recently, so I thought it might get you up to date with how Bobby Brady ended up, (though I always think of him as the voice of Oblio in "The Point".)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/lookinlandmug1.html

listenerz

a shame jay north turned out kind of goofy.
but, to the author of this entry--calling dennis the manace a 'mediocre show'???
i loved watching that show in all its rerun glory in the 80s. it was my favorite.

Listener Kliph

I watched it when it was rerun in the nineties. I remember it being mediocre. Maybe if I watched it in the eighties tho, it would have been better ...

Rory Murray

What may have shaped Jay Norths somewhat extreme attitudes is the fact that on the set of Dennis The Menace, once the director yells cut, Jay was routinely praised by his cast members and then severely beaten by family members.
This has just got to fuck a kids head up, even to the extent that he becomes a Republican Prison Guard.
What I want to know are his views on Illegal Immigration.

Jay's shipmate

Regarding Jay North in the US Navy.

I was in boot camp with Jay at RTC Orlando Florida in 1977. We were the only guys from California in the company and how we ended up in Florida instead of San Diego is still an enigma.

He was a regular guy, just like the rest of us. A little older, and more out of shape. But he hardened up and everything worked out in the end.

Being from California, we would 'shoot the shit' now and then. We would mostly talk about growing up in LA. I lost track of him when we went to the fleet in April 1977.

Anchor's Aweigh

DS

A bit over the top about Shirley.

Yes, in the 1960s she could be quite the reactionary, but I think that it was driven by her naive "patriotism" as opposed to anything sinister. She wasn't quite the full-up right wing hawk that you portray, since she has gone on record many times for environmental causes, and--I believe--severed ties with Del Monte over some human rights disagreements. She seems to have shifted over the years to a more centerest political bent, and her silence about Iraq--where in the 60s she would have beat the drum for the administration's position--is revealing. Also, don't forget that she was one of the very first celebrities to go public about her mastectomy (and the need for cancer testing) in the early 1970s, in an era when nobody in public life would dare discuss such things. She probably saved a few lives there.

Mark

Does anyone know if there is a way to contact Mr. North for an autograph? PLEASE let me know what you know.

Michael Powers

Wow. That's a hell of an article. Dennis the Menace is a curiously unwatchable show for an adult, although it's been decades since I've seen it. There is something very ulteriorly strange about North's performance and if half the comments after your article are true about his treatment on the set, it's no wonder. You know, your joking remark about the show possibly being better in the 80s than the 90s actually has some resonance for me. The short-lived sitcom "United States" with Beau Bridges (the network kept moving it around all over the schedule from week to week) seemed like the very pinnacle of sophistication back in the 80s but when I finally got a chance to see it again in the 90s at the Museum of Television & Radio (last week renamed "The Paley Center for Media"--sort of like renaming a synagogue the "Hitler Center for Jewry," but at least they didn't name it after Sarnoff), "United States" just looked like an extremely good TV show rather than something transcendently great beyond anything else ever seen on television (except, of course, for John Frankenheimer's "The Comedian").

As for "The Little Colonel," I guess the historically accurate but shameful presence of slavery in the movie is a small price to pay to see Temple dance alongside the great Bojangles Robinson, not to mention the welcome appearance of Drew Barrymore's great-uncle Lionel. (As an aside, I never believed that Drew Barrymore was really John Barrymore's granddaughter, given the rather unfettered persona of her mother Jade, until I noticed one night on a talk show that the jawline of her profile is identical to her grandfather's. Also, many people today don't realize that John Barrymore held the same ubiquitous acknowledgement as his generation's greatest actor that subsequently went to Marlon Brando, and was infinitely more famous in his day even than Drew Barrymore is now.)

richald

Gee.....I guess it's OK for Hollywood folks to be liberal, but God forbid that they are CONSERVATIVE

Greetings from the midwest....I DESPISE LAZY LOSERS (IE LIBERALS)

richald@aol.com

passing through

"Temple also played the youngest character in a film to own slaves - see the 1935 20th Century Fox release The Little Colonel if you truly desire to see this "family film" in action, shockingly still available in Wal-Mart's children video sections everywhere. Racism the whole family can enjoy!"

Are you offended or annoyed that people have the freedom to choose to watch or not watch this film?

Steven

Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Hussein, were all severely abused children. If the stories are true about jay North's childhood abuse, it stands to reason he'd end up as a hardcore right-winger.

L Evans

Shirley Temple was raised in a conservative Republican family. Her second husband was also a conservative. So it was not her movies that influenced her, but her personal life.

P. Esquibel

There are far more sick stories to tell about all the degenerate hollywood liberals. But, if you are a god believing conservative in hollywood they hate it. Liberals, hate the fact that all their anti vietnam garbage only produced the killing fields of khomer rouge. All the Overdosed hollywood wierdos, wow lets write a book about that.

What about Maya

I always assumed that Jay North (or his parents) were liberals or even proto-hippies because of that 1966 movie (and later TV show) "Maya" he was in.

That movie was set in India, had a kind of pro-Animal "Born Free" type theme and the 15-year-old North even appeared in it buck naked.

http://www.clothesfree.com/maya.jpg

http://w1.1396.telia.com/~u139602049/north4.html

In fact, that was the first movie in which I ever remember seeing "Name" celeberty appear nude in. Of course, by the end of the 60s it was common.

Tom Dwyer

I was in a private drivers ed school with Jay North at age 15+. I believe it was in Eagle Rock, Ca. between Glendale and Pasadena. We sat next to each other. He was about a year older than me. He seemed like a nice guy and was VERY interested in the female students pointing them out to me like I was missing something (typical boys). Anyway, the thing that I remember the most was the people that picked him up after class. It sure wasn't the TV family that I expected (the Mitchell family). My own mother looked and dressed like June Cleaver and I suddenly appreciated that fact.

ginger robertson

Jay and his wife Cindy are my next door neighbors. You are so wrong. I know him very well. You couldn't ask for a better friend or a better man. He is filled with compassion, thoughfulness and certainly is a credit to everyone he knows. He still talks with Sinjy from India and stays in contact with Jeanne Russell and some other Hollywood friends. However, he is very busy with his grandson and his daughters and his family life, so he doesn't get to California often.

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