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June 01, 2009

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» Edgar Varese dirigiendo a grandes del jazz from meneame.net
[en inglés] La emisora WFMU ha publicado en su blog unos temas en los que se puede escuchar al compositor Edgar Varese (uno de los más admirados por Frank Zappa) dirigiendo en 1957 a un workshop de jazzmen de primer nivel entre los que se encontraban C... [Read More]

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bartlebyvqf

Whoa, at any quality, thanks!

Louisville Dan

WOW! A real find. Thanks for posting.

RSTVMO

I am so there like.

norelpref

truly extraordinary. thank you!

andy

Great tunes! Thanks.

For the record, by 1957 Cecil taylor was already well into it (on record) never mind Lennie Tristano. Mingus was also poking at the free jazz thing by this time.

dividend

...and stories going back to '40s bebop players' private sessions as well... i'm starting to think this music pretty much goes back to the beginning.
nevertheless, what a great entry point to a larger field of music-- wonderful sounding stuff.

any references out there to this being the real deal? i'm pretty convinced myself.

weasel walter

i was going to cite taylor and tristano, but andy beat me to it. regardless, this is pretty interesting info.

ww

Noal Cohen

The vibist is Teddy Charles.

PaulB

Frank Zappa 1971:

I waited some more. The letter came. I couldn't believe it. A real handwritten letter from Edgard Varese! I still have it in a little frame. In very tiny scientific-looking script it says:

VII 12th/57

Dear Mr. Zappa

I am sorry not to be able to grant your request. I am leaving
for Europe next week and will be gone until next spring. I am
hoping however to see you on my return. With best wishes.

Sincerely

Edgard Varese

I never got to meet Mr. Varese. But I kept looking for records of his music. When he got to be about eighty I guess a few companies gave in and recorded some of his stuff. Sort of a gesture, I imagine. I always wondered who bought them besides me. It was about seven years from the time I first heard his music till I met someone else who even knew he existed. That person was a film student at USC. He had the Columbia LP with Poeme Electronique on it. He thought it would make groovy sound effects.

I can't give you any structural insights or academic suppositions about how his music works or why I think it sounds so good. His music is completely unique. If you haven't heard it yet, go hear it. If you've already heard it and think it might make groovy sound effects, listen again. I would recommend the Chicago Symphony recording of Arcana on RCA (at full volume) or the Utah Symphony recording of Ameriques on Vanguard. Also, there is a biography by Fernand Oulette, and miniature scores are available for most of his works, published by G. Ricordi.

Andy

Where did you get these?

I think you're goofing.

Dark and Dusty corners, my ass.

Allen Lowe

probably eddie costa on vibes - Allen Lowe

labradog

This is absolutely the shit!
This should all be compiled on one CD, like a jazz rave album.
It's like flying with and through mobiles.

Steve P.

There's a definite progression through the tracks...Doesn't sound like Art Farmer to me; actually sounds like a classical player.

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I think it's Edgard Varese (with a d)

Peter EVans

Awesome---I've heard of this but never thought in my wildest dreams that I'd actually hear it!!!
BTW what is the source on the "used to listen to John Coltrane at the Village"?

William M

Actually sounds a bit like mid-60s Sun Ra.

Nike Shox TL

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Ryan

Wow, this is mind blowing. I had no idea that he did this! This just made my night. Thanks for the post!

Herb Deutsch

I wrote an article on Edgard Varese for New Arts Journal (or some name like that( They never published. Interviewed him twice at his house in the village. He told me the Charlie Parker story, that Bird wanted to study with him, but it never happened. The date timimg is correct and these sound like legit attempts. Really cool stuff and he probably did sketch them. Got to know him pretty well over the years since my Moog days.

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