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July 07, 2005


Billy K

Wow, man. What a trip. you just pretty much told my story, but i was an Apple II guy.

Codez...gotta get fresh codez....

My two closest hacking pals actually did get their homes raided. I knew something was up that day at school, and when I finally got the truth out of them, I frantically called my Mom, and told her to destory all the disks and papers at my desk. She, of course, just threw them in the dumpster behind the house (the cops would never think to look there!).

And so ended my days as a phreaker and warez trader. I always wanted to write a book about the early days, but I really don't recall enough details. I guess this was 1984 or 85. It was right around the time the Mac started making the Apple II obsolete.

Rambling now...but thanks for the story.


My God, I thought I was the only fat, weird geek with a 64 growing up. Acatually my few friends and I all had them. Did we ALL grow up to be pudgy, balding obsessive-compulsive record collectors, too?


Man, this not only takes me back, it brings back feelings of loneliness and despair I haven't experienced in years. I never actually had a C64, so I had to live vicariously through my best friend's warez and codez adventures. He actually attempted to order a new computer using a credit card posted on a BBS. This never panned out, which was probably for the best in retrospect. Now he's in the air force and we have pretty much nothing in common. Man, though, that shit was fucking exciting at the time.


Not only did I spend much of my early childhood studying the architecture of the C64 (the even earlier part of childhood had my attention on large mainframes), but to this day I still revisit the subject, and have found that those geekier than I still publish technically-oriented Commodore 64 newsletters to this day.

I still have my original floppies with my own game intros. I still have my original 110 baud modem, my original break-out box wired up to act as a null modem connector, and early sketches of the first computer programs I wrote back in my single-digit ages. And I still remember certain phreak numbers (real geeks never said "codez" except in a ridiculing way). [*Not that I ever used any.*]

And, yes, that was a much, much more interesting time in the history of personal computing. Now the average computer owner just knows how to point and click. They're missing out!

Billy Bibbit

10 print "Psycult ";
20 goto 10



I did very similar stuff to you- but never got caught.



Wow, what a great story.

I spent most of my teenage years hacking out cracks and demos as Mantis, on the fringes of the XS group (before it got big in the Amiga scene iirc). If you ask me, they were fantastic; my favourite trick was getting the floppy drive's light to sync with the demo's music.

the products of those years all disappeared into total obscurity; thrown into the bin by my parents sometime in the mid-90s, several years after I moved out, and there's no sign online. :(


Wow, what a great story.

I spent most of my teenage years hacking out cracks and demos as Mantis, on the fringes of the XS group (before it got big in the Amiga scene iirc). If you ask me, they were fantastic; my favourite trick was getting the floppy drive's light to sync with the demo's music.

the products of those years all disappeared into total obscurity; thrown into the bin by my parents sometime in the mid-90s, several years after I moved out, and there's no sign online. :(


I have to thank you crackers for offering all sorts of video gaming fun in my youth via easily damaged hand-labeled floppy discs.

Sometimes in my sleep, I murmur;

" LOAD'*',8,1".

I once spent a day programming my trusty friend to make a snare sound and then a cannon. Go figure, they sounded the same.
The crowning achievement was securing a performance of Tom Dooley.
After that I decided not to continue programming because, it took too long and I thought my eyes were about to pop out of my head.

Oddly enough , I too enjoy the sound collecting world but, I was always more into music than anything else. Hey, when you are fed a steady diet of Vivaldi, Three Dog Night, Sex Pistols, Art of Noise, SugarHill Gang and ELO; one becomes adventurous.

I could have stopped when I found a decent copy of "Free to be You and Me" but, I did'nt.

Oh dear, It seems I've rambled off topic.


Wow! C64 was my first computer.. I programmed a few games in the 6th grade, I had some kind of tape recorder. I started reading all kinds of those magazines and got really into it. Then one day my surge protector went out... unsure what next I told my mom I needed it fixed and that was the end of my computer days. Its still in the closet waiting to be fixed.. Im 33 now. I ended up doing graphics, then web, then scripting.. wow.. if only someone would of fixed that thing I'd really be on top of my game :-)

Its hard enough being a girl in this field..


the good old days! I used to Call BBS's overseas for -0- day warez using codes also! 516-201-313 area codes had the most Elite BBs's. I also remember the whole phreaking/hacking/carding scene heheh. Dude, Q-Link! i used to spend hours on there getting my warez connections.
I relate to your story 100% (even though i wasnt fat) it was a whole new world for a kid! WAREZ,DEMOS,COPY PARTIES


Ahh, the memories. Actually, I had pretty good success with the 64, I published 3 games: Robot Wars, Hostage and Meteoroids, created the Lottoman Database software which allowed me to start my own company. Unfortantly that happened just as the 64 was fading into the sunset, so that didn't last very long.But my fondest memories on the 64 was bbs'ing and hacking. I remember using a really cool program called Phoneman. It inspired me to write my own hacking tool which I called Phonebuster. It had a war dialar and a password generator which would hack at a computer until it got in. It even called it back when it got disconnected.LOL! God.. its funny when I think back on that but if you were do that now-a-days.. I mean with caller-id now, you would be busted for sure. Yes, times were so much simpler back then and you could get away with a lot of stuff, but progress is progress and I'm glad we are where we are at today. They were good times though and I am greatful to Commodore for making a great puter.

Cool Man

Man... took the words right out of my mouth... I ran a BBS called the Code Hotline. I was caught myself by ITT...


I had a C64 but I was young at the time. I just played video games but I had to start them myself my parents wouldn't and couldn't help me. I think my brother told me how. I dare say I want to get a commadore 64 again. I don't think I've ever hacked though. I don't remember how old I was at the time but I'm 18 now.


i just got my c64 a couple of years back i know a little basic but nothing special i have switched to an cbm amiga a600 learning blitz basic


God, I remember the days. Me and a guy named mike did two semi lame demos under the name ECG. I was devastated when Commodore bit the shit. I still have all of the old software and 4 64's, 2 v-20's, 2 Amiga 500's, and an Amiga 3000. Damn, those were the days, slow BB downloads and cracked warez.

I still get sad when I think of those days gone by.
They were wonderful days, and I am comforted to think that I'm not alone in recognizing their beauty 15-20 yrs later.

Take care of yourself, and to all other who share these memories: NEVER FORGET.


Remember them days ?? im 34 now and still living them hehe.. I have a wife & 2 kids but I still find time to close the door on my den and fire up my trusty 64. I still code on it, spending time ripping sids from intros..

The Bandit

Wow, awesome story. Sounds a bit like mine towards the latter end of my days on the C64.

Frank Rondon

If anyone is interested i have a Commodore 64 BBS up and running 24/7. You can telnet with a program terminal software called Cgterm which can be easily googled and downloaded and telnet to

Deathlok of Style/Padua

Ahh.. Those were the days.. The Commodore 64, believe it or not, is still going quite strong.. I too grew up a computer "geek", giving away many days of perfect sunshine for the 4 walls that encased my passion for my Commodore 64.. I did everything back then.. I was a hacker, cracker, phreaker, programmer (Deathlok Modded C*Base, anyone?), musician, SysOp of Blurred Reality, among many other things.. Through the course of time, I've tried to keep ties with many of my friends from that era.. It's a difficult task to track some people down, but, when you do, with today's internet, it's much easier to keep in touch..

I still have 12 Commodore 64s (6 working, 6 for parts), and will occasionally use one to reminisce about the past.. I still write music from time to time on it, too.. Anyone can use samples on the PC to make music.. To actually program the voices yourself and put everything together?? That takes REAL talent.. ;)

Just because we grow older doesn't mean we have to grow apart from the things we enjoy.. Heck.. I met my wife of 14 years through the old Q-Link system you mentioned above.. That was one of the other great things about the Commodore 64.. Whether you were on Q-Link or a BBS, you could have much more personal interactions with other people.. You truly got to know them for who they were because you were able to talk to the same people on a daily/nightly basis.. Q-Link was a nice escape from the "ELITE" scene that I spent so much time dealing with.. It allowed me to drop the hacker-stuff for a while and just chill out, even though I was hacking my accounts on Q-Link too.. LOL!! 6+ years and I never paid a penny.. What's funny is, even though I was a known hacker, I was still asked to come work for them at one point in time.. Sheesh..

punisher (yes 1 of many)

Man I think you told the story of most of us. I was also an artist of many demos and bbs start screens. I remember being up all night drawing with a Atari 2600 joystick plugged into the commodore 64. I also ran a 0 day bbs - and imported from Europe - the art was super fun - I also called it quits in 1990. As fate had it - I'm now in my mid-30's and have been making video games since 1994. Funny how things work out - thanks for telling the story of many of us. I suddenly don't feel quite alone anymore.

oh and raster bars fucking rock!


Another good warez site is


I ran the Villa BBS on the C64 back in the day great to read all the comments. Fun times for sure!


I ran Hackers Exchange and The Laboratory on a c64 for years. I had someone setup Hackers Exchange ][ at some point but then everything died off. Mostly after Operation Sundevil I got out of everything, but I always had notebooks full of codes/etc. Remember code lines? A voice mail system that would be compromised and used to give out codez/cardz? It definitly isn't the same anymore. It won't EVER be like that again, unfortunately. Isn't it amazing how far it's all come in such a short time though?

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