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November 09, 2006

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felix

Well, that fucking sucks.

Bill

Are'nt most/all of these FCC complaints filed by a single organisation the Parent's Television Council? Members of which include the late Steve Allen and Liberal Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman? Everybody always wants to lay the blame at Right Wing Christians.Much of the Right Wing would maintain that the Federal Government has no Constitutional authourity to regulate television/radio.At least with the Democrats back in power we might see the secular progressive Left flex its censorship muscles to remind you this crap is "non-partisan" so-to-speak.I hate to see the cliched "Righ Wing" bashing all the time.

The SuperBowl incident is a poor choice to demonstrate the absurdity of this regulation anyways.It was a "G" rated "family" broadcast in the early portion of the Day.The most easily offended Prude would not have thought to block that with her V chip.

Bat Guano

Bill, much of the right wing is made up of crybabies who demand their own special kind of nanny state. And, please, find us an instance of the "secular progressive Left" trying to get the FCC to ban mention of any individual word or groups of words, or images.

Liz B.

Bill, you have a point about most democrats not being very pro-First Amendment on the indecency issue (but I would not label Lieberman a liberal democrat by any means). However, they're not the ones eagerly awaiting a televised slip of the tongue so that they can rile up their posse to fire off zillions of complaints to the FCC. The PTC and the American Family Association are behind most indecency complaints, as Jeff Jarvis of the BuzzMachine blog demonstrated in this case. FCC fines for indecency are based on viewer complaints: if nobody complains, then the FCC keeps its paws out of broadcast content.

I do find it incredibly disturbing that many so-called progressive and/or democratic representatives call for limits to the First Amendment so readily. Although these folks are not filing complaints with the FCC every time they hear the word "dick" on TV, they are creating systematic changes that will affect free speech in the future: read any of FCC Commissioner Copps' statements regarding indecency rulings, or do a party-line comparison between reps and Senators who voted to increase the maximum indecency fine. Few federal officials are brave enough to stand up for the First Amendment for fear of appearing soft on smut.

As far as sports games being "family-friendly," I'm sure the prudest of prudes is well aware of the rampant cursing coach phenomenon. The 2004 Super Bowl nipple incident (Janet was actually wearing a pastie, so "nipplegate" is a misnomer) lasted half a second, and frankly, half of her boob was showing before the wardrobe malfunction anyway. Cleavage is ok for the PTC, but they draw the line at pastie? Any prude would have changed the channel at the first sign of Justin Timberlake grinding against Janet.

Gaylord Fields

Bill, i'm sorry, but i stopped reading what you had to say (and any salient points you may have made about the hypocrisy of the FCC) when you referred to Joe "Stay the Course" Lieberman as a "liberal." Not to tell you (too harshly) how to make your arguments stick, but staying within the parameters of reality and not sprinkling your points with "Argument Helper" is one. Leave the truthiness to the professionals.

felix

Sounds like Bill is a little bummed about this recent election cycle. I do agree with him though. It used to be the case that when I wanted my dose of hardcore gay sex, or pedophilia, or hopped up tweakers, I would just turn on CSPAN. Now with the Dems in charge, I'll have to settle for some frumpy old biddy with 10 pounds of underwear droning on about some boring subject like universal healthcare or fiscal responsibility. Sheesh. But to be fair Bill, yes, I do remember when Saint Zappa was alive, he did indeed take on Tipper Gore over the PMRCC.

Bill

None of you will probably be back here ......BUT
LIEBERMAN is very very liberal by US Senate standards ...even for a Connecticut Democrat.
Remember you ran this guy as Gore's Vice President.
Or are you equating his support for the War with Conservatism?
Leaving out recent War(s) compare his voting record on liberal issues with your favorite US Senator and tell me he is more RightWing.
No one seeems to dispute my contention that these FCC complaints come from a very small group as opposed to some broad spectrum of Christians or RighWingers.
As for Censorship and the American Left look up yout broadcast history for something called "The Fairness Doctrine".Not to mention the regular shout downs of unpopular speakers
with those amusing chants of "No Free Speech For Racists!" "Racist! Sexist! Anti-Gay!..."
Don't forget Hillary and Video Games.C.Delores Tucker and Gangsta Rap.
And that Huckleberry Finn is the most bamnned book in school libraries.
I could go on about Lefty Censorship but my point is the knee-jerk condemnation of Right Wing Christians whenever this shit comes up.
Much of America's Individualist and libertarian tradition actually comes from those Crazy Evangelicals who were "outside" the established dominant Protestant Church.
See any bio of Patrick Henry for example. Much of the social power of establishment Protestantism has evolved into the secular progressiove left and their equating SUVs, "unhealthy" habits,"Hate Speech", etc with SIN.

Gaylord Fields

I'll just say this: What makes you think C. Deloris Tucker was a liberal? Oh, yeah, she was black — and all blacks are liberals. Same with Tipper — she's a Democrat, and Democrat = liberal to you. (Those who voted for Heath Shuler might have issue with that.) Our European friends seem to think we have two right-wing parties, and i tend to agree.

Advice #2: Leave the strawmen in the cornfields, where they actually perform a useful service.

sd

I really love how you always talk about 'right wing christian' censorship yet you deleted my comment criticizing the idiot who committed sucide and said it was because of the war in iraq. typical left wing hypoctricial bull shit. delete this one also.

an observer

I suspect your other comment was deleted because it was stupid and insensitive.

sd

if i made the same exact comment about john ashcroft it wouldnt be deleted, schmuck.

Jim

Whither freedom of speech?

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